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MFR "Without Radio" [message #186228]

Fri, 25 April 2008 08:39

K-dub
Messages: 306
Registered: May 2004

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I've started final mixes for album #3 ... hopefully I'll get it all wrapped this year ...

Anyways -- I always post here because folks give advice straight up. Well that, and they all really know what the hell they're doing. Very Happy

This is the second tune off the upcoming one:

Without Radio

Any/all comments about anything are warmly appreciated.

Thanks!

Kev-

[Updated on: Fri, 25 April 2008 08:42]

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186230 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Fri, 25 April 2008 12:48

vincmpozr
Messages: 6
Registered: March 2008

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really nice vox! Reminds me a lot of Ray Davies/Kinks
I would like to be hearing a regular grand piano sound, instead of the harsher sounding piano sound. Also, think the wah synth sounds and effects are unnecessary, and dated
Last of all for the lead break/solo a different choice of notes, not so much in the blues scale.
I do like the song.

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186231 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Fri, 25 April 2008 17:24

studiojimi
Messages: 2870
Registered: April 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA

Producer

hi kev

i'll just jot my thoughts as i listen

long time no see

interesting piece

the drum programming is a bit too over sofisicated for pop music in my opinion

and while musical

the sensibilities are often not completely drummer like to me

a lot o nice backing vocals

a lot of things in this mix hit you in the face out of the blue and almost scare the listener

i'm listening no my control room tannoys today

the sound his interesting

the organ sounds like it was an after thought or the original track tossed in out of the blue at times

in some ways this is your most musical and outrageous piece ever man

wacky

the hi hat just is wearying

the complexity of it is a bit too much in many moments

a lot of fat sound in here

good one man

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186233 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Sat, 26 April 2008 09:49

K-dub
Messages: 306
Registered: May 2004

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Thanks for the insights folks!

This song started as a bit of a lark ... and I just kept layering and layering -- resulting in the "complexity" issue Jimi mentioned. Yet, I'm not certain what I'd cut out either. It's complex, but ... well, it's complex. Very Happy

I accept that the voicing selections themselves aren't the greatest, but I can't get around my vision -- that they sound the way I want them to.

I experimented earlier with more "organic"/real/better patches, and rejected them in favor of the more "unique" cheez-whiz flavorings.

I do agree ... that hi hat is just plain annoying. Actually, I find all the cymbals played by robo-drummer annoying. Very Happy

My close friend, Mark Crumb did lead guitar honors on this piece. Sadly, Mark passed unexpectedly last year ... so the guitar part will remain as he played it. I just wanted to explain why I couldn't/wouldn't change that part.

I truly appreciate the comments! I'll post up a few more as they roll out of final mixing.

Best,

Kev-

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186235 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Sun, 27 April 2008 10:19

studiojimi
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Registered: April 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA

Producer

i'm happy man that you are working away on your craft

kudos!

i'm currently putting live drums on all of my tunes and remixing them and really enjoying the life it is putting into my tunes

i'll be posting them as my mixes develop as well

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186237 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Sun, 27 April 2008 10:57

K-dub
Messages: 306
Registered: May 2004

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Live drums make a huge difference, Jimi. If I could, I'd have them on every production. I'm glad you're able to do that.

Unfortunately, I'm not a drummer ... so to get them, I need to either pay to have them done professionally, or get the drummers over to my place to record ... neither of which is done easily.

I've got "most" of the production work done on the third release, and I'm hunkering down to get final mixes in place.

I've just started getting the arrangements and selections chosen for #4 ... and early creative efforts are underway to build the tunes for that one -- which has a target date for next year sometime.

I seem to be pacing at an ability to put out about 10 or so each release ... which I'm trying to accomplish roughly annually. Working pretty much alone as I do, that's a fairly reasonable output (I hope).

Best,

Kev-

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186276 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Sat, 24 May 2008 18:39

MDM,
Messages: 8
Registered: May 2008

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my impression is always the same: find a collaborator.

the recordings are not incisive enough, and the vocals are not intelligible enough.

your music aims to be pop, even if it's an adult-pop and pop MUST be clear and concise in terms of communication.

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186285 is a reply to message #186276 ]

Mon, 26 May 2008 16:20

Tannoy
Messages: 45
Registered: May 2005

Serious

Hello again...

...man, are you the thread-winner ? Laughing

Just kiddin'...

As for the mix on this one:

The low-end on the vox is fighting a bit with the low-end from the kick track....maybe the vocals could use a little fader-push + a bit less low end and some more mids - all of this until the bridge. Maybe you'd like to put some more 'shining' to the guitar (probably in the high-mid range) as well.

Just suggestions,

Marco.

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Re: MFR "Without Radio" [message #186291 is a reply to message #186228 ]

Mon, 26 May 2008 22:42

K-dub
Messages: 306
Registered: May 2004

Music Lover

Thanks Marco ...

Yes, over the last month or two, my secret goal has been to be king of this forum.

Actually, considering the talent that visits here, I'm surprised that more people don't avail themselves of the deep resource.

Thanks for the thoughts ... truly appreciated.

Kev-

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